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Friday, January 30, 2015

Jim Webb and Andrew Jackson

I've explained in various ways at various times that the reason I picked a blog title using the symbol of Andrew Jackson is because he represented and basically progressive, democratic vision and political program for his time. And because even that cutting-edge democratic program had deep contradictions and flaws.

I wish Hegel had lived long enough to write about Old Hickory and his relationship to the World Spirit. But he didn't.

Jackson was a wealthy, slave-owning planter who politically became a champion of working people, opposing the power of concentrated wealth in the form of the Bank of the United States and winning the support of the early labor union organizations of his time. Although a slaveowner, in the confrontation with John Calhoun and South Carolina over nullification, he clearly came down on the side of democracy and national patriotism, clearly recognizing the danger that the fire-breathers' pro-slavery extremism presented for democracy.

His Indian removal policy was just plain bad. And there was an opposition that made valid points against it in real time. I've discussed his Indian policy more than once here, which presents its own contradictions and dilemmas on both sides, without defending it. It was plainly a wrong policy.

Jim Webb's recent invocations of Andrew Jackson reflect the contradictions of Jacksonian democracy in an interesting way. The Jacksonian movement developed in various directions, some pro-slavery Southerners managing to consider themselves Jacksonians, as did grassroots democratic movements including Indian rights and women's rights activists. That's true as well of Abolitionists, although in the politics of the days they tended not to identify with a Democratic Party symbol like Jackson.

Dan Merica reports in Jim Webb: Democrats need to focus more on 'white, working people' CNN 01/30/2015:

Webb, the former Democratic senator from Virginia who is entertaining a run 2016 presidential nomination, told NPR Friday morning that his party has not focused enough on white, working class voters in the past elections. In order to be successful in the future, Webb said, that will need to change.

"I think they could do better with white, working people and I think this last election showed that," Webb said, referencing the 2014 midterms where Republicans took control of the Senate and added more power in the House. "The Democratic Party could do very well to return to its Franklin Roosevelt, Harry Truman, Andrew Jackson roots where the focus of the party was making sure that all people who lack a voice in the corridors of power could have one through the elected represented." [my emphasis]
This could be taken as the progressive, democratic side of the Jacksonian legacy.

Susie Madrick chooses to spin it that way (Jim Webb: Dems Need White Working People To Win C&L 01/30/2015): "pretty much every progressive organizer and campaign operative I know agrees with his main point. We can win the White House, but we will never get a lasting majority and get to accomplish our agenda without reclaiming the white working class demographic."

But a "demographic" is not a policy. And policies that actually win more votes from one demographic can have contrary effects on others.

The nature of the policy depends on which part of that demographic description is emphasized: white working class, or white working class?

Sadly, Webb's pitch sounds like it's putting the emphasis on the white part, the regressive side of historical Jacksonianism:

Looking ahead to a 2016 race that he may run in, Webb added: "You are not going to have a situation again where you have 96% of the African American vote turning out for one presidential candidate. ... We need to get back to the principles of the Democratic Party that we are going to give everyone who needs access to the corridors of power that access regardless of any of your antecedents. I think that is a fair concept."

In 2012, the last presidential election, Republican Mitt Romney won nearly 60% of all white voters, compared to Obama's 40%. That difference is an increased split from 2008, when Obama won 43% of the white vote and Republican John McCain won 55%.
The Democrats have never quite gotten over their post-1968 obsession with trying to carry Southern states, which meant in practice trying to find some ways not to scare off too many Southern white voters who really, really don't like black people.

Whatever practical sense that may have made in 1969 - I tend to thing the Dems' understanding of it was wrong-headed even then - that ship has long since sailed. The core constituency of today's Republican Party is southern white evangelicals. The Deep South that was once a Solid South for the Democratic Party that accepted segregation is now a Solid South for the Republican Party that is working hard to restore segregation, above all with the voter-suppression laws.

The Democratic base is relatively more heavily concentrated in non-Southern African-American and Latino voters, white women of all classes and working-class men of all races. Part of the trick in considering this issue is that there is no standard understanding of who the "working class" is. Journalists tend to use non-college-educated adults as a working definition of "working class," which is likely to be very misleading.

Advocates of concentrating on winning white voters for Democratic candidates tend to assume that making appeals targeted to racially-prejudiced whites will not deter black, Latino or female voters from supporting Democrats. Taking the base for granted this way is foolhardy, as we saw in the 2014 election. Last year, the Democrats tailored their national efforts toward appealing to swing voters, when there are few actual swing voters in midterm elections. The Republicans concentrated on turning out their base by campaigning on positions their base liked.

The results are well known.

This report by Alistair Bell, Why tensions in Ferguson may help Republican in a local vote Reuters/Yahoo! News 11/03/2015, points out that if black voters start deciding that the Democratic Party is not interested in representing their interests, some of them may well decide to vote Republicans instead, apart from those who sit out the election altogether.

We saw that to some extent in Sen. Thad Cochran's successful primary race against a Tea Party challenger in Mississippi last year. For the second round of the primary, Cochran actively courted African-American voters to vote in the Republican primary. In a heavily Republican state like Mississippi, it's entirely thinkable that some black voters may decide that since Republicans are going to win their district in general elections anyway, they may as well vote in Republican primaries to have some voice. This would be a kind of mirror image of the days in which the Democratic primary in Mississippi was the only election that really counted. And if African-American voters start getting actively involved in Republican primary campaigns, it's likely that some of that party loyalty would carry over into general elections.

The Democrats can't afford to be fools about this.

The appeal-to-whites-as-such strategy may also suffer from bad algebra. As an example, take a state or district that is 45% black, 55% white. Assume equal turnout for each party's base. Also assume that African-American voters go 95% for Democrats, whites 95% for Republicans, a somewhat higher percentage on the white side than that typical in hardcore Republicans states like Mississippi and Alabama. That percentage would produced a result of 54% for Republicans, 46% for Democrats.

Drop the white Republicans percentage to 85%, and the election result becomes 51% Democratic, 49% Republican. That represents a shift of 10% of white voters to the Democratic column.

In other words, to shift that percentage, Democrats don't need to get half of white voters, or even 75%. Where they are getting 5% in the first example, they need to start getting 85% (rounding involved). The right way to do that for the Democrats would be to concentrate on measures that look good to working class voters of all races. Not by trying to invoke white identity politics that will alienate Democratic base voters, and which the Republicans will easily be able to counter with intensified appeals their well-develop, segregationist, white identity politics.

It's what Andrew Jackson would do.

Tuesday, July 01, 2008

How hard will Obama fight?


Fear and jingoism are basically all the Republicans have to run on in the general election. And the Establishment media for the most part are eager to help them make that case.

It worries me a lot to see Obama taking what seems to be a very defensive stance at the moment. Defensive not as in defending his lead over McCain in the polls or playing to the Democrats' current strengths. But defensive as in thinking he has to run like a scared bunny from the attacks of the Big Pundits, the Establishment press and the Republicans.

In what Josh Marshall calls the "bitch-slap" tactic, the Republicans make some flimsy attack on the Dems, often just picking up on something the trivial-minded and scandal-hungry press has initiated. The idea is not so much to make the attack itself stick as to make the Democratic opponent stumble in some way in responding to it. And for most of these types of attacks, anything other than either an in-your-face rejection or a kiss-my-hiney type of response is going to look "weak". Obama fell into that trap on Monday by joining in the media and Republicans attacks on his own supporter Wes Clark for a completely legitimate comment made in defense of Obama's candidacy.

How do the Republicans respond? Of course, they want to scare Obama into repudiating even more of his supporters. When you've got the other side on the run, you press your advantage. Greg Sargent reports at TPM Election Central, McCain Campaign Accuses Obama Camp Of Coordinating With Webb To Attack McCain 07/01/08.

Golly, a Democratic Senator is supporting the Democratic Presidential candidate?! Maybe even talking to his campaign?!! The Obama campaign needs to respond to this kind of obvious nonsense by pointing out that the McCain camp is acting like a bunch of WATBs. If they can't stand up to Jim Webb, who will they ever stand up to The Terrorists? The only way, the only way that these kinds of WATB attacks can stick at all is if the Obama campaign trembles in fear and apologizes for expecting Democrats to support the Democratic candidate.

Maybe Obama needs to have a secret day-long training session with Bill and Hillary Clinton on how to go about fighting the Establishment press. Because that, rather than the attacks from the Republicans (which the press often pick up), is Obama's biggest challenge in this election. If he's goal is to prove to the practitioners of High Broderism that he is "bipartisan" or "post-partisan", then we'd better brace ourselves for a McCain candidacy. I would much prefer having a chance to return to Constitutional government.

Digby has a good perspective on this kind of thing: "Wake me when the transformative, post-partisanship features something that doesn't make me nauseous."

Her particular point of reference there was Obama's new embrace of funding "faith-based" social services and allowing them to use the money for explicitly religious and proselytizing purposes. If the feds don't stop funding those dishonest and worse-than-ineffective "abstinence-only" sex education programs, then the high school kids who aren't either pregnant or suffering from an STD or both are going to be a small minority before we know it.

She called the Republican whiners how were so horrified at Wes Clark's comment on Sunday the "LaVyrle Spencer Book Review And Ladies Circle Jerk Society", asking Does Anyone Have A Spare Lace Hankie?

I'm wondering if we're going to wind up with the Democratic base going around trying to defend Obama's candidacy because we don't want to see the Supreme Court reduced to 1850s quality while Obama concentrates on sounding as much like a Republican as he can. If he wants to build a mandate to get the US troops out of Iraq and pass a decent national health-insurance program - and the country badly needs both, whether he really cares about those goals or not - then he's going to have to get beyond the "post-partisan" stuff and campaign for Democratic goals.

I'm genuinely puzzled at why he and his campaign think he has to strike such a defensive posture. This would be the perfect moment to go aggressively after McCain. Telling high-profile and effective Democratic spokespeople on national security issues to shut up is not going to get him to the White House.

And if he doesn't get there, McCain will attack Iran and magnify the catastrophe known as the Cheney-Bush Middle East policy. We'll have no solution to the heath care financing failure, and businesses will continue to reduce their coverage of their employees. The torture gulags will continue to operate. Our energy policy will continue to be written by oil lobbyists. These would not be good outcomes.

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